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Dialogue 1:
That's enough now with those shallow questions. Watch out! Soon you’ll be asked to account for yourself!
You are ashamed?
That’s better now: repentance is also forgiving.
It is time for you to transform yourself.
BE INDEPENDENT!
You don't understand me...?
You've got too much inert matter- too little independence! The seed is not sown on hard ground. You will be tilled by endless searching. And what has been good will become bad. And what has been bad will become good.
Do you know me? Do you know me?
You are pagan, but that is good. You’ll be baptized with The Water of Life. You’ll receive a new Name. The Name exists, but I cannot yet reveal it, Prepare yourself for it._
You may ask me one of your questions! "The one who speaks" is tired. Give her strength.We will meet again!
Dialogue 2:
You called me? I called you! I have come to answer you. Ask!
What is your first task?
This is your sign. You are named the one who helps. And the helper should not fear. Do you understand your sign, my little servant? No!
It is a marvelous sign! You are a funnel: the triangle is its sign. May this image guide all of your acts! And look! Beneath the cone of rays, there’s a second, inverted cone: And that is deliverance.
THE HUMAN IS THE FOCAL POINT. NOT FORMS AND RELIGIONS.
THIS MARVELOUS INDEPENDENT TASK IS OUR WAY
I bring good news, you are dear to me. Do you want to see me again? Yes!
Then you will not see me.
Would you like to see me again? Yes!
Then you will not see me. Oh, you only want to see me better? When the task requires it, you will see me. I surrender. You would also like to surrender? . You know what? You got too much goin' on up here...
In the body, you are the last born...
In the spirit you are the first of the newborn. I now take leave of you!
Dialogue 3:
The 'one who measures' speaks:
What is growth for the plant,
what is movement for the animal, is for the human: giving If you do not always give; you wither.
PERFECTION IN THE LIMITED
IS AN IMAGE OF THE UNLIMITED, AND SO THE IMMEASURABLE APPEARS IN THE MEASURABLE.
I serve through 'measuring'.
I measure since the beginning of time.
I do not reward. I do not punish,
I only measure,
You carry reward and punishment in yourselves.
Leaden birds, the door of your cage is open, but you dare not fly! I frighten you, that you may fly!
I spoke, I depart.
Dialogue 4:
I now take the lead...and I continue to speak about measure.
The only task of the animal is: itself.
It rejoices in what is its own:
its air...its food... its young.
It lives in a circle known as: itself.
It is a creature.
Human measure is exactly the opposite. Your joy is what you radiate out of the circle.

The animal is hungry and eats until it is full... until it has enough.
The human is fulfilled and radiates out beyond itself... And that is never enough.

Thus, human joy is immeasurable.
That is the mystery of eternal life!
If a church-bell rings in a closed room,
it would become unbearable.
IF JOY IS ALL AROUND YOU THEN YOUR MEASURE IS RIGHT. I have come to answer you. ASK!
You are disturbed with Freudian psychoanalysis? You have a feeling that there’s something wrong with it, but you don't know exactly why...!
Because! It chops into pieces without having the ability to put together again. That is what is disturbing to you. To break apart is easy.
The experts tell you that psychoanalysis integrates and builds up.
They are silly.
They’re like children, playing with building blocks.
They play around with the most sacred of tasks. But they are worse than all the others, because they betray those who trust them.

THEY TEAR APART THE LIVING AND THE GROWING, AND THEN THEY SQUEEZE AND CRUSH IT.
We don't glue things together!
The new wine will not be poured into glued jugs for it would burst them!
The glue has many names you know: 'duty', 'obedience', and many, many more. And to paint over the glued parts and try to hide them is senseless:

The very announcement of the coming wine causes everything glued to shatter.
It’s not now that it breaks; it's now comes the new Wine.
Fear not!
Live, in the name of the ONE!
Dialogue 5:
False shame is a sign of weakness.
Silence is my word.
From silence, create the act.
However loud our tool may be, it creates silence in matter. Silence-balance measure; The saw cries out but what it creates radiates silence, peace and balance.
Do you have a question?
Your father is dying.
You want me to speak about death?

You ask about something that does not exist. But I will answer you just the same.
WHAT IS DEATH BELOW...IS LIFE ABOVE. YOU ARE DEAD AND LIVE ETERNALLY.
All else is time and illusion:
Waves breaking on the shore,
an infinity of small deaths...that is life. Cells die...new ones are born.
Human beings die...new ones are born.

IT IS NOT DEATH THAT IS BAD, BUT THE UNFINISHED TASK.

You are ‘the one who builds', The Five.
The motto of your way is not "it was", nor, "it would be good" and certainly not, " it is good."

The key word of the builder is: "BE!"
"It was" signifies omission';
"it would be good”, incapacity;
"Oh, that’s great!", arrogance.
Your motto is: "BE!"
Your Heaven is green because the earth is green.

You may call me at any time, just as you called me to you now. I am yours at any time!
I am speaking to you:
This is the direction of human evolution. An equal measure of vertical-spiritual and horizontal-material.
Dialogue 6:
Greetings to the four of you!
The choir of angels brings a message; It is your task to pass it on:
THE CROSS IS NOT THE SIGN OF DEATH. DIE WITH HIM AND YOU LIVE ETERNALLY. THAT IS THE FIRST HALF OF THE TASK. THE SECOND HALF OF THE TASK IS LIVE THROUGH HIM.

Sacred mystery.
We are angels.
Our word is truth,
Our drink is Light, our song is Praise.
The wedding of Heaven and earth approaches. Rejoice!
The virgin body is not required if the flame is pure and the passion holy. Creator and created,
Light and shadow;
Bride and bridegroom
are merely the vessel where ecstasy dwells.

Only ecstasy, only being drunk with Light is Divine.
And after the wedding,
the New born: Ö.
We serve together: we are One.
WITH YOU WE PERISH
OR WITH YOU WE ARE PURIFIED.
We are so close to you!,
but if you do not call us we can not reach you.

Above you hovers the multitude of angels. May peace descend over you.
But pass it on, it is not your own.
All that belongs to us is Ö;
and we belong to Ö.
This is our message:
YOU THROUGH THE DIVINE; THE DIVINE THROUGH YOU!
Dialogue 7:
ö speaks and the four sing:
Always create!
Always act!
Without raising a hand, without wanting to: YOU ACT!
The five is with you, helping.
The seeing ...see.
The hearing... hear.
The dying...live.
The living...bear witness.
The song never ends!
Earthly and heavenly life have seven levels: Three are completed; and three are beyond the threshold; and in the middle, the FOUR can find them all.

Thus the seven levels become one, and sin ceases to exist.
It’s the five that speaks to you.
You don't completely understand me...?
You don't understand even the half of it!

The four unites the two sets of three of the seven levels. I belong to the FIFTH level, and through you I am connected to earth.
Belief leads to the FOUR.
But the FOUR no longer believes; the four ACTS!
Listen!
What is power?
I will reveal it to you:
The Five is angel- the Six is the seraph.
The seraph is to me what I am to you.
But where is the Four?
Ö does not tolerate emptiness,
The Divine is known by the name of 'wholeness'.
Your place is in the middle,
There the near and the far cease to be.
Bow down your head before the Divine But hold it high before the others!

Do you hear my words?
Do you understand my words?
Well... Do not hear them,
do not understand them; live them!
ONLY AT THE PEAK OF YOUR QUESTION WILL YOU FIND AN ANSWER. I AM THERE; ONLY FROM THERE CAN I ANSWER.
Dialogue 8
Why do the people stare at what is below?
Why is the ruin beautiful to them, and not the whole?
The “one who measures” speaks:
All the heavenly forces hover above you
And wait for you to be their hand.
They bring this message:
Do not flee!
Both here and beyond death, all is but a dream.
Wake up! And never flee before the task!
We speak the truth; we do not console.
Consolation is for those whose souls are darkened,
who do not see the LIGHT.
The façade of the lie disintegrates
for the new vibration acts:
We cannot act.
For we have no hands.
We can only be the wordless word.
But if the word and the hand are one,
Then everything is possible.
Dialogue 9:
I put it out!

Turn on the light!
Enough!
Impenetrable darkness!
A movement.. a flick of a switch...and the human makes light. A sacred force is captive in a prison of glass, and for humans the peace of night is taken away. Behold!

The earth is covered with prisons!
But you have the key.
Where are you a prisoner?
In your habits?
This is your own prison.
Where does it weigh on you?
Your habits always return...?
They do not return,
It’s you who simply do not leave them. It is up to you.
Ask!
How might religion and science become united?
In the new light one will see that they are one... They have always been one,
just as melody and rhythm are one and inseparable. Each member of the great orchestra plays but the symphony is one.
Sometimes the violin leads, sometimes the cello, sometimes religion, sometimes science.
But now: nothing!

For no one serves: everyone leads.
More than all the others the drum, for it is the loudest.
The conductor is the servant of the symphony’s spirit. But now there is not even a conductor.

Only the loudest dominate...
Ask!
Should you be working scientifically?
Yes, of course.
Science is the child of wonder.
Do not despise it.

Wondering and curious are two very different things. There are many who are curious, but there have also been some wonderers.

Seek them, they will teach you.
It doesn’t matter if it is from books or from people. To the seeker a teacher will be given.

For those who can wonder, wonders appear.

The greatest wonder of all is the human being.
Listen, a network of concrete roads spans the entire face of the earth.
THEY ARE BROAD, WIDE AND SMOOTH, AND MADNESS RIDES UPON THEM.

What is madness?
A SACRED FORCE THAT WITHERS IN CAPTIVITY.
But to you it is given to show the way. Ask!
What is movement?
Well that’s the greatest of all.
Growth is not yet movement...
wind is not yet movement...
flowing water is not yet movement...
decaying to dust is not yet movement.
These are only reactions, persistence of inertia. Motion dictated by hunger, cold, desire is compulsion. But you... YOU are already free to move.
THE ACT MADE FREELY IS MOVEMENT
The helping Hand... is Movement.
The radiating Eye... is Movement.
The raising of matter to a new dwelling... is Movement.

Teach this, my servant,
and bodies will be reborn at your touch! They will rise from their graves,
for now they are all dead...
THEY ARE ALL DEAD!
Can you comprehend the incomprehensible?
REASON STOPS BREATHLESSLY WHERE FAITH BEGINS.
Dialogue 10:
I cannot stay for long today.
A hard word: war is good.
Take care!
Falsely used force becomes destructive.
It would never come to a halt without the weak –the victim- who absorbs it. Past wrongs cannot be righted.
But the victim extinguishes the horrors.
The weak shall be glorified and no more lambs shall be slaughtered.
War was unavoidable.
I teach you:
The inheritance which Ö has left you is eternal life,
ETERNAL IMMACULATE CONCEPTION.

Lover and loved originate
from the Divine,
who gives birth eternally.
When the bride and bridegroom unite, death dies forever.
THUS MUD ASCENDS TO LIGHT AND LIGHT IS CLOTHED IN MATTER.

The old house is a cracked and decaying frame: Abandon it while you can! The bridegroom cannot enter there:
The eternal lover, the LIGHT,
The only fulfillment of desire.
Behold!

Every ecstasy honors the Divine.
Let there be no doubt in your soul!

ECSTASY IS THE MOST SACRED OF ALL.
IF YOU COULD SENSE THE LONGING OF THE WEIGHT FOR LIGHT!

IF YOU COULD GRASP THE YEARNING OF THE LIGHT FOR WEIGHT!

THEN YOU WOULD TASTE ECSTASY.
I leave you now.
Dialogue 11:
Your way is not improvement, not mending. Your way is that which has not yet been.

THE ONE WHO IS JUST THROUGH CONSTRAINT, THE ONE WHO ACTS THROUGH CONSTRAINT, IS A SLAVE.

Do not be slaves!
Breathe only the air of freedom!
Cut there, where you are still a slave!

EXISTENCE IF IT WEIGHS,
IF IT PRESSES DOWN,
IS A BRAND OF SHAME ON YOUR FOREHEAD.
I must, is a curse.
I can, is deliverance.

The chosen one chooses:
The chosen can ACT.
The chosen could go, yet remains.
The chosen could lie, and yet harvests. The chosen could take, and yet gives.
Dialogue 12:
This message is for you:
Be born, Child, it is already possible! The womb constricts you now.
You better leave it, or it will kill you! The opening is narrow, but it yields. Be born, Child!
'The one who helps' will not be helped.

The strength which now fills you is enough! Don’t look at me like that. I will not help you! Come to the world by yourself!
BIRTH IS FREE!
THERE YOU ARE ONE WITH THE DIVINE AND THERE YOU ARE YOURSELF.
Dialogue 13:
And you?
How can you tear down the wall that is between you and others and makes you unfeeling toward them?
The wall is not where you believe it to be: you are unfeeling with yourself. With yourself!
You don’t understand me?
YOU HAVE DESTROYED YOURSELF!
You STILL don’t understand me?
You can correct this by giving protection to others.
There is no other way.
The wall is in you.
You have built it with your own hands
and hid behind it from the Divine.
Most people hide in just this way.
So you have plenty to do.
What horrible prisons!
Some day all the prisons will open,
but not for the self-imprisoned.
Help to tear down the prison walls! For you know what a prison is.
Burn!
And heaven will be in you.
Let us open our hearts and adore Ö!
Dialogue 14:
Listen carefully!
I speak of the cross.
In the cross are two forces:
WAY, RESISTANCE.
Earth...water...air...and the 'not yet known.'

The ‘not yet known’ is the resistance you now penetrate.
Horizontal force is an inert force. Resistance is inertia and that is good. Wind is a horizontal force.
The ascending ray transforms itself by piercing the inertia of resistance.
TODAY THE HUMAN DOES NOT PIERCE THROUGH INTO THE NEW, BUT IS FLATTENED BETWEEN TWO RESISTANCES, AND BECOMES PASSIVE.
All of you!
You are now ready to pierce the last resistance. Act!
Only one point is difficult:
There, where the two directions intersect. Be careful!
THERE, SPIRIT AND MATTER MEET!

Dialogue 15:
He, too, chose baptism.
He knew that to go on would be possible only in this way, and He knew that all would follow in His footsteps.

Churches are mortal,
Baptism by water is immortal.
In the church, everyone pleads and begs. But this is not your way:
Your heart and His are ONE.
Open your arms wide!
GIVE WHAT IS YOURS TO GIVE:
GIVE YOURSELVES.
For you 'Communion' is not receiving, But giving.
You are being begged for deliverance.
The prayers of many straying in darkness Keep watch over you, For you are the only way out for them.
They desperately need your help.
Give: always give!
ACT: always act.

Believe me, if you heart is empty,
It will be filled anew without your asking.
Listen.
That bell calls to the ancient mass.
So much noise, so much color penetrates from outside!
But you!
Show something new that is stronger than the strongest sound and yet: silence. To that they will listen.
Now I listened.
And the sound was good,
You can hear it, too, if you listen intently. Everything depends on listening: Always listen!
IF YOU TRULY LISTEN
EVEN THE STONES WILL SPEAK.
Dialogue 16:
Do you know what beauty is?
IT’S THE GOOD SERVANT GIVING MORE THAN WHAT IS NECESSARY. The body moves..that is necessary.
Dance is more.. and if it is truly dance, it is beautiful.
Voice is necessary... song is more.
To form is necessary... only the more is beautiful.
THE NEW WORLD WILL BE BUILT ONLY OF BEAUTY.
What is the mind, what is reason?
CONDUCTION... BUT NOT THE CONDUCTOR. THE INSTRUMENT.., BUT NOT THE MASTER.
You lick the sugar-spoon and you say: "sweet'
It is not the spoon that is sweet.
If you try to bite it you can crack your teeth.

My little servant, are you happy?
Be happy, all of you, for your life is beautiful when you serve.
The new is as beautiful as the old is ugly.
But be careful:
IF THE FULL-GROWN ADULT CONTINUES TO GROW, THIS IS FAT OR TUMOR; IT IS NOT BEAUTIFUL.

YOU HAVE ALL BECOME FULL-GROWN ADULTS
GIVE BIRTH TO THE NEW,
TO THE CHILD
STOP TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELVES GROW!
Does everyone have an angel?
No.
We consist of faith- purely of faith.
TO THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH,
WHO BELIEVE, WE ARE.
AND FAITH IS THE FORCE OF THE DIVINE.
--IF YOU BELIEVE THAT I HAVE A VOICE... I CAN SPEAK. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IT...
I AM MUTE.
IF YOU BELIEVE I AM YOU...
I BECOME YOU.
Believe in the high!
You can also believe in the low.
Today devils clamor and angels are silent. But through your belief, we descend. FOR BELIEF IS THE BRIDGE.

I leave you now.
Dialogue 17:
Listen well!
The measuring of suffering is unknown to you. Welcome suffering as a messenger from heaven But let it depart when it is ready to leave.
SUFFERING TEACHES NOTHING! SUFFERING DOES NOT REDEEM. THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUFFERING. Expect no good, no fruit, from suffering!
How can you welcome suffering and still be Joyful?
By following the good path, your own path. Deliverance is the goal;
It is no longer your task to act: only Ö acts.
If you act without the Divine, you agitate matter. It’s up to you:
Do you want to act?
Or the Divine through you?
Do you want to act?
Only through the Divine.

Do you want to act?
Also only through the Divine.
THE WORD CREATES
Withdrawal is no longer possible.
It is done: you have both chosen freely.

There will be no more halfway.
The briefest thought, the shortest word is a movement that acts!
The lie will be vomited from the world!
Dialogue 18:
The flame rises up and light flows everywhere.
Matter is purified by burning.
Air corresponds to the spirit,
The flame to individuality, the 'I' that has become One. Air is invisible,
Matter is heavy
The flame connects them.
Without air, matter cannot burn.
Without matter,
There is no redeeming individuality.

I will teach you how to light it:
In the beginning: the wax is cold, and the air is cold. What ignites the flame?
The wax? No.
The air? No.
Only the already burning flame ignites.
Without a wick, the candle could not burn. Without a body, there would be no Individuality.
ONLY THROUGH THE HUMAN BEING CAN GRACE DESCEND.
It’s destruction all about you
But in you, eternal renewal,
Purification, giving of oneself, wedding.

Have no fear! Even Heaven earth might be destroyed, but all of that means nothing if the new Fire burns in you, Love Life!
Love the Seven!
BURN!
If Heaven and earth are united,
Then comes: GIVING.
And, no more pity!
Especially for yourselves!
No more lukewarm mud puddles!
Away with every false breath in you!
May your mouth remain closed if not speaking the truth,
May your hands be petrified if not acting for the Divine.
Fear no one!
There is nothing to fear.
And NEVER FLEE FROM YOURSELVES!
IN YOU LIES THE HOLY-ALL-POWERFUL WORD: THE POSSIBLE.
Burn! Live!_
Be filled with Light!
May no more doubt dwell in you,
Act, and your faith will move mountains!
The eye says: Light The ear says: Sound The hand says: Act The heart says: Love
Understand: all of these are radiated images. The key to the hidden secret is All-AWARENESS The Four of the Seven is the Heart,
that attracts, calls and concentrates
all the Divine blood, all the Divine force, to Itself.
Thus the Seven becomes SONG.
May the Song resound!
The dividing wall has crumbled.
THE TWO HALVES OF LIFE HAVE BECOME ONE.
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